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Death Doula | Death Midwife Training | Death Healing Rituals

With Sarah Kerr, PhD, Death Doula and Ritual Healing Practitioner

Shaman, Priestess, Mystic, Scapegoat

Posted on March 19, 2018

This interview, on The Numinous Podcast with Carmen Spagnola covers all sorts of interesting territory. From Carmen’s post about it:

“In this conversation, I ask Sarah to explain the difference between The Priest/ess, The Shaman, and The Psychopomp as archetypes. (We also toss The Mystic in there for good measure).

We consider the implications of being white women doing work that is often called “shamanic”, and share our different perspectives and comfort levels around that. (It’s a site of struggle for each of us in our own way).

I also dig a little into a section of Sarah’s dissertation, Dreams, Ritual and the Creation of Sacred Objects: An Inquiry Into A Contemporary Western Shamanic Initiation. It’s a worthwhile read and this part of our dialogue will appeal to those who’ve long walked between the worlds but didn’t know what to do about it, or have had spontaneous initiation experiences and few places to turn for support. We talk specifically about how the Shamanic Archetype is often scapegoated by society, and how one way to heal through the Journey of the Walkaway is to choose to Return as Teacher/Interpreter.”


(click the image to listen to the interview)

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